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Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada
Take in the sights and sounds with the best of Canadian hockey at Olympic orientation camp in Banff!

gay jess @pikesbian
jesus christ holly looks so miserable golfing

dan 🏒 @twinkshane
its crazy that shane hollander is the best hockey player of all time, has a fat ass, and is a genuinely good guy… all while being beautiful and gay… how does he do it

Ilya Rozanov ☑️ @ilyarozanov
he also has a very handsome talented husband did you know

Or: Shane Hollander and the 2022 Olympics through the eyes of hockey twitter.

Notes:

hello again
i wrote most of this in the week before the gold medal game and then i had to put this aside for a few days because i was emotionally damaged.

if u have not read the previous works in this series, bits of this will be confusing for you. so. consider reading those first

this fic takes place in what i ASSUME is the unrivaled season, but does not really cover the nhl season. i have vague hopes of writing a fic in this universe for unrivaled when it’s out, but i assume RR won’t talk abt the olympics. maybe she will idk. either way, this will probably become the non canon companion.
the reason the nhl didn’t go to the olympics in 2022 was bc of game rescheduling bc of covid. bc the pandemic didn’t occur in the game changers universe, the nhl goes to the 2022 olympics. (in 2018, it was because of the collective bargaining agreement, so it follows that they didn’t go in the game changers world either).
really i just was being wooed by my beautiful sidney crosby and his band of hockeydaughters, and then was thinking deeply about the construction of canadian national identity and white masculinities and hockey legacies and shane. and here we are.
it’s difficult to take the character of shane and his obvious reluctance to be, like, an icon of diversity, vs. a very real need for players to talk abt this stuff and him having the platform to do so. i have tried to balance that delicately, to walk the line of in-character and also, like, meaningful and real to him. i am not sure whether or not i have struck this balance successfully or not.
this is not meant as a commentary on the american men’s team and the shit they’ve gotten up to. nor is it, by any means, like, moralizing about canadian players being better or something. they just have less opportunity to make asses of themselves.
this series is not really meant to reflect on real players. except perhaps one very obvious analogue in this fic but that’s not a critique.

also: there were not a lot of tourists at the 2022 olympics. this was mostly abt covid, which doesn’t apply here, but i kind of think ilya probably would be encountering visa complications with his relationship to the russian state at this moment in time. so he’s staying home.

cw: allusions to canon-typical homophobia, some conversations about race and racism in hockey
title from bad omens by 5sos
hockey term glossary

(See the end of the work for more notes.)

Work Text:

 

July 2021

 

vic @censeless 

i cant believe shane hollander and ilya rozanov are both centaurs at the same time. if you told me that five years ago i would have called a doctor to perform a wellness check

kitty @2017hollanov

they are also married

vic @censeless 

i dont know how to explain that the cens used to be so unbelievably cursed that hollanov being married is actually less surprising than them playing on my team

 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

The official roster for the National Team Orientation Camp should be made public tomorrow. I’m told there have been a lot of conversations internally and even some last minute invites.

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

will shane be there. denis will shane be there

 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

I’m hearing that 44 players have been invited for the men’s team. Reminder that only 25 players can make the team in January.

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

what if they dont bring shane

luca haas defender @rozhaas

why wouldn’t they bring shane???? 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

girl the homophobia

luca haas defender @rozhaas

he’s literally the best canadian player let’s not borrow grief just yet

 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist

im seeing a vision… 🔮roz gets his citizenship and he and holly play together at the 2026 olympics…🔮 it’s so clear…

margo @shanebortion 

@ImmigrationCanada get on it!

 

gay jess @pikesbian

…what if comeau is there

dan 🏒 @twinkshane 

DONT SAY THAT

gay jess @pikesbian

LOOK IK HE DIDNT MAKE THE TEAM IN 2014 BUT HE WAS AT ORIENTATION… 

dan 🏒 @twinkshane 

he was so bad all year why would they bring him

gay jess @pikesbian

dumb fucks at hockey canada

dan 🏒 @twinkshane 

……youre not wrong

 


 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Some mixed feelings about the orientation camp roster (we’ll get into it on the pod!) but just want to remind everyone else feeling concerned that the actual team can include guys who weren’t at orientation! 

 

Julia Prior ☑️ @JuliaPriorESPN

Attending Team Canada’s Olympic orientation camp from the Bears are Cliff Marlow and the 2021 Calder Trophy winner Finn Matkovic. 

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

and when shane hollander adopts matty as his hockey daughter and they play perfect hockey together and we experience peace on earth, then what

isa ⚘ @marlyroz

finn as shane hollander’s new favourite boston bear i’m listening i’m seeing the vision… 

 


 

The Neutral Zone S05E05: No Thanks, 41:22

Tyler Kudirka: And, lastly, they’ve finally announced the roster for the Team Canada orientation camp. Any idea why this took so long, Denis? The camp is next week. 

Denis Alderman: I’m told there’s been a lot of debate internally about who warranted an invite. 

Tyler Kudirka: I mean, it’s only orientation. No harm in having a couple extra guys kicking around, right? 

Denis Alderman: …I think it was a little bit more about… maybe leaving off some players who have earned the right to be there, but might rock the boat a little. Maybe some personal feelings clouding judgement.

Tyler Kudirka: Denis.

Denis Alderman: It’s been a while since the NHL was at the Olympics. They don’t want to be making decisions based on what worked eight years ago. Previous selection doesn’t guarantee future selection. And there are conversations about team cohesion; a lot of them haven’t played together before. 

Tyler Kudirka: These are the best of the best, Denis, these guys should be fully capable of developing chemistry with each other.

Denis Alderman: And I’m told that was also what the management group ultimately concluded. There just were questions first. 

Tyler Kudirka: So they ended up on the roster, the players in question?

Denis Alderman: They did.

Tyler Kudirka: Can you tell me who?

Denis Alderman: Look Tyler… There were a lot of questions. There are still a lot of questions about this player from last season.

Tyler Kudirka: Denis. Tell me it wasn’t Hollander. 

Denis Alderman: I can’t tell you that. 

Tyler Kudirka: Holy– [bleep]. Are you kidding? 

Denis Alderman: I’m not. 

Tyler Kudirka: What kind of mickey mouse operation do they think they’re running? Shane Hollander? Three-time Stanely Cup winner? Conn Smythe, Hart trophy, Ted Lindsay winner? The guy who captained them last Olympics? 

Denis Alderman: I know. But he’s there, so obviously, they made the right decision in the end. 

Tyler Kudirka: Team cohesion. They–they’re asking questions about whether, what, guys will be uncomfortable with a gay player in the room? At the [bleep]-ing Olympics?

Denis Alderman: We’re a professional show, Tyler, simmer down a little. 

Tyler Kudirka: I– sorry. No, sorry, you’re right. But, Denis, it’s the Olympics. The Olympics. We should be bringing the best Canadian players, period. Not– not getting into playground clique politics. 

Denis Alderman: I agree. But it’s a new situation, and they’re figuring out how to navigate it. 

Tyler Kudirka: New that Hollander’s openly gay, I guess, but I’m pretty sure he was gay in 2014 too. 

Denis Alderman: I–right. Yes, well, that’s true. Look, I just think… the news this spring and how all of that played out… was surprising to people. I think the hockey world is still not sure what the outcome is, in terms of play. 

Tyler Kudirka: Denis, that’s– look, okay, first of all, I disagree with the argument in principle, because I don’t know why Hollander or Rozanov would play any differently than they have their entire careers, but also, Rozanov isn’t going to be on Team Canada. It’s just Hollander. Who is just as gay as he was in 2014. 

Denis Alderman: It’s an adjustment, Tyler, that’s all. And there were… I don’t want to accuse anyone of unprofessionalism, but I think some personal feelings and relationships got involved for a bit. You have to remember that Pascal Grenier, who’s GM for the Voyageurs, is part of the Hockey Canada management group and recently felt… embarrassed by how things played out. 

Tyler Kudirka: …It would be a national embarrassment if Grenier’s ego kept Hollander off the team. That could cost us a podium spot.

Denis Alderman: Yes, well, Hockey Canada and the management group made the right decision in the end. They’ll talk to guys at orientation, they’ll get the group together, they’ll watch how the season unfolds, and they’ll make the right call in December. They want to win. They’ll pick a team that they think can win. 

Tyler Kudirka: I sure hope they do, Denis. Okay. Jesus. Sorry, okay, well, we were going to talk about what I thought the actual surprise on this roster was, which is leaving off Atwood in favour of Drapeau…

 


 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

HOCKEY CANADA I WILL END YOU!!!! 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

literally why are they the most evil fucking organization on the planet jesus fucking christ

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

we have to destroy pascal grenier im serious

 

kitty @2017hollanov

shane hollander: gay the whole time

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

the olympics are supposed to be fun what the hell i wanted to see holly and matty play hockey together not worry about the best canadian hockey player getting left at home because of HOMOPHOBIA??? 

 

ilya’s thong @achilles81

tyler neutralzonepod my woke king we would be lost without you

 


 

August

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Take in the sights and sounds with the best of Canadian hockey at Olympic orientation camp in Banff! bit.ly/201087

gay jess @pikesbian

jesus christ holly looks so miserable golfing

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

i love the little pack of guys following shane around in the orientation camp video like that’s literally mama!!!!! those are his ducklings!!!! 

ilya’s thong @achilles81

the concept of cliff marlow being one of shane’s ducklings… big ass jj boiziau a duckling…

gay jess @pikesbian

like those are his bodyguards 😭 i think even bood is taller than him  😭

shane’s pr manager @holly24

okok fine but at the very least barrett and haysey and pointer are his ducklings

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

and when matty PLAYS with shane then he will also become his duckling

pepe silvia red string meme

isa ⚘ @marlyroz

girl i love to be delusional with you but there’s no fucking way matty is making the olympic team

 


 

December

 

The Neutral Zone S05E39: Holly Jolly, 05:06

Tyler Kudirka: Okay, now, for our last show before the holiday break, we promised we’d have a little bit of fun. 

Denis Alderman: We did, Tyler. I enjoyed putting this together, I’ll tell you that. 

Tyler Kudirka: Today, we are projecting Olympic rosters! Now, obviously, this is all in good fun, we don’t know anything–or, if Denis does, he’s pretending he doesn’t–so don’t take this too seriously. 

Denis Alderman: And also a reminder that the official Olympic roster will be named on December 31st, but it’ll still be subject to change pending injury. 

Tyler Kudirka: Absolutely. Okay, we have about four teams to go through, so how about I read my Canada roster, you agree or disagree, and then tell me the differences, and then we’ll switch and you’ll read your USA, and vice versa.

Denis Alderman: Sounds like a plan. 

Tyler Kudirka: Okay, I’ll start with the forwards. Canada will probably bring fourteen. I’ve started with what should be the easiest choice, in my opinion, the one and only Shane Hollander.

Denis Alderman: Hmm. 

Tyler Kudirka: …Denis. Denis, do you like being attacked on Twitter?

Denis Alderman: No! No, look, I do also have him on my list–

Tyler Kudirka: Right.

Denis Alderman: –but I don’t know if he’s the shoe-in you think he is. 

Tyler Kudirka: The– He has 30 points, Denis. In fifteen games. I know there was weirdness around orientation camp and Grenier’s feelings, but surely he’s more than proved himself. Unless Hockey Canada is being run by, like, deaf-blind dinosaurs, there’s no reason to leave him off! 

Denis Alderman: There’s concern– 

Tyler Kudirka: Is it the [bleep]-ing gay thing again, Denis? Is it the homophobia? 

Denis Alderman: Will you let me finish? It’s not that, it’s not that simple. They’re looking at how things ended in Montreal–not the trip! Not the playoff trip, okay, don’t jump me–but Hollander losing the room. There’s gonna be at least one Voyageur on the team–

Tyler Kudirka: Boiziau was at Hollander and Rozanov’s wedding! 

Denis Alderman: Right, sure, but Grenier is very high on Drapeau and Couilliard. As I was saying, they look at the end of Hollander’s tenure as captain and are questioning whether he’s the right pick to captain this Olympic team. 

Tyler Kudirka: …What? 

Denis Alderman: It’s just a question! He’s been captain before, but they didn’t get the result they wanted–

Tyler Kudirka: Oh, god forbid you win an Olympic silver medal.

Denis Alderman: –and there are other guys who have grown since then. So then the question becomes, can they name Hollander to the team without making him captain?

Tyler Kudirka: This is genuinely absurd, Denis. Hollander is just fine under a different captain in Ottawa. He’s not some, like, aggressive, posturing alpha male. 

Denis Alderman: Well, it’s a little different in Ottawa, his relationship to the captain.

Tyler Kudirka: It really does always come back to the gay thing, doesn’t it?

Denis Alderman: It’s not– There are other factors at play, Tyler. But, as you have pointed out, I also think the concerns are overblown, I think Hollander is a necessary cornerstone of this team, and he will do just fine whether or not he’s the captain.

Tyler Kudirka: I– Jesus. Okay. Merry Christmas, everyone. This is the holiday show. Okay, the second guy I’m projecting for Team Canada is James Matheson, who I assume, as a reigning Stanley Cup winner, is not a controversial take? 

Denis Alderman: No, that’s an easy pick. 

Tyler Kudirka: Great! Great. Okay, next… 

 


 

ilya’s thong @achilles81

i like that denis alderman is scared of us. he should be.

tanHER dillon @kanatacommunist 

we need to make him more scared

ilya’s thong @achilles81

i think we should make hockey canada scared first

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

if shane doesn’t make the olympic team i will send hockey canada a [looks my fbi agent directly in the eye] strongly worded letter

 

Emil @emilbeauvier72 

Would be a Big mistake to exclude Hollander… Voyageurs went from a cup winner to 25th in the league without him!

 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

why….the hell…..wouldnt shane be captain……………….. somehow this is the voyageurs fault...........

 


 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Antoine Theriault will replace Jon Dixon as Assistant Coach of Team Canada while Dixon is on medical leave. Wishing you safe recovery, Dixy, and welcome to the team, Theriault!

margo @shanebortion

theriault if you so much as look at shane hollander i will end your bloodline

 

margo @shanebortion

hockey canada blocked me

ilya’s thong @achilles81

well duh 😭😭

 


 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Introducing YOUR 2022 Team Canada! bit.ly/844739

gay jess @pikesbian

thank god we’re taking atwood over drapeau holyyyy 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

first they leave murray out of the management group and then wiebe off the coaching staff and now BOOD OFF THE FUCKING TEAM??? hockey canada is censphobic confirmed

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

and if by censphobic you mean a different kind of phobic and also an ist well…. 

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

FINN MADE IT HE DID IT MY BABY BOY FUCK ALL OF YOU WHO DOUBTED MY LITTLE PRINCESS

isa ⚘ @marlyroz

our baby goat is going to the olympics!!! 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

he’s going to play hockey with mama!!!!!!!!!!

 

Derek @DerekMG70

Surprised to see Matkovic over Morrison. Not sure a 19 year old kid is the better pick over a vet…

 

Montréal Voyageurs ☑️ @VoyageursMTL

Olympics, on y va! The boys are Olympic-bound!
🇨🇦 J.J. Boiziau, Louis Couilliard
🇸🇪 Jonas Olsson
🇩🇪 Dieter Koch

 


 

January 2022

 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

Russian Olympic Committee announced their team selection today. As expected, Rozanov has not been named to the team.

 

kitty @2017hollanov

goddddd i feel so bad for roz :(((( like i know we all knew this was going to happen but god it just sucks so bad

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

i almost wonder if he and shane were planning to wait till after this olympics to come out…

kitty @2017hollanov

FUCKKK WE HAVE TO K*LL BRAD

 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

it’s the way hockey canada barely avoided being as homophobic as RUSSIA

gay jess @pikesbian

jesus christ when you say it like that

 

Cens Watch ☑️ @CensWatch

Shane Hollander on his selection to Team Canada: “It’s an honour, obviously. It’s always an honour to represent your country. It’s not one I take lightly… We knew, when we came out, that Ilya would lose his chance to do that again. So I’m very grateful to still have that option open to me.” 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

FUCKKK MY SHANEY MY SHANEY 💔💔💔

 

Cens Watch ☑️ @CensWatch

Rozanov on Hollander’s upcoming Olympics: “Well, obviously he deserves it. He is the best Canadian hockey player, until I get my citizenship, then maybe he is second best. But of course I am very proud of him. He works very hard, he is perfect teammate, Team Canada is lucky to have him, and all the other Centaurs who are going.”

 

kitty @2017hollanov

MY HOLLANOV FUCK THEY LOVE EACH OTHER SO BAD WE ALL HAVE TO DIE

tanHER dillon @kanatacommunist

no ❤️ we all have to live ❤️

kitty @2017hollanov

woah….. #realshit

 


 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

Hiebert (MIN) is being evaluated after he went down awkwardly in the second period vs. Nashville. Sounds like it might be the end of his Olympic aspirations. 

 

Minnesota Nomads  ☑️ @Nomads

Brandon Hiebert underwent successful surgery on a broken ankle this afternoon. He is expected to miss 8-10 weeks.

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Obviously we feel for Hiebert - it’s tough to see a guy sidelined before the Olympics. That said, wondering who fills in for him on Team Canada. Gotta think the obvious choice is Ottawa’s Zane Boodram, but wouldn’t be surprised if they take a long look at Levi Preston in Houston too, given how he’s played the last two months, and of course Morrison.

 


 

February

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Zane Boodram has been named to Team Canada in replacement for Brandon Hiebert. 

tanHER dillon @kanatacommunist

YIPPEEE

 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics

Hollander on Boodram’s selection to Team Canada: “Obviously, we’re so excited to have Bood. He deserves it so much, he’s been playing so well and so consistently for years. Great to see him get the chance. He’s a great add.”

 


 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Meet your leadership group! Introducing James Matheson as Captain of Team Canada, with Alternates Jean-Jacques Boiziau and Shane Hollander 🇨🇦

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

…does anyone else think its fucking bullshit that holly isn’t the captain?? 

margo @shanebortion

it’s the homophobia queen

 

gay jess @pikesbian

its actually so embarrassing to name matheson as captain like when the fuck has he ever led a team. i dont care that he just won a cup, he was MID they won because of bogrov

tanHER dillon @kanatacommunist

careful oomfie twt doesnt play about ontario boys

gay jess @pikesbian

the most generic type of boy alive 🙄

 

John @reddeerpatriot

Glad to see Team Canada hasn’t totally fallen to the woke agenda… You need Real Men forged in Canadian Winters to Lead

ilya’s thong @achilles81

what does this even mean you fucking weirdo

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

whatever. whatever it’s literally whatever. when shane shows up and outplays everybody then you’ll fucking see

 

ilya’s thong @achilles81

if we lose the fucking olympics because hockey canada were too scared to put a gay man in charge i will burn down scotiabank arena.

luca haas defender @rozhaas

…are there even any guardians on team canada?

ilya’s thong @achilles81

no but what does that have to do with it

luca haas defender @rozhaas

right… 

 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman

Matheson on being named Canada’s Captain: “It’s an honour, obviously. To be chosen as a leader among such an accomplished group of guys, you know, that’s a lot to live up to. Especially, I think a lot about [Hollander] in 2014. He led us so well, so steady. So, I’m going to try to live up to his example.”

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman

Matheson, via @DNVR “I have spoken to him, yeah. Holly reached out as soon as we heard. He’s a great guy, legend in the sport. I’m grateful for his support, and I look forward to playing with him again.”

 

margo @shanebortion

shane can forgive but i won’t

 


 

Julia Prior ☑️ @JuliaPriorESPN

Caught up with Rozanov after Centaurs practice here in Boston today. Still such a quality guy, always a delight to talk to. Happy to see him succeeding after so much adversity.

Brian Walsh @bostonbrian

Someone has a crush

Julia Prior ☑️ @JuliaPriorESPN

@bostonbrian 1. This is offensive to me as a professional. 2. This is misogynistic. 3. This is homophobic. I am a lesbian. Don’t be a fucking weirdo.

 

Ottawa Centaurs ☑️ @OttawaCens

Tune in tonight for our last game before the Olympic break. Your Centaurs play the Boston Bears at 7pm EST on Sports Centre!

 

Julia Prior ☑️ @JuliaPriorESPN

Barrett on playing with Matkovic at the Olympics: “Obviously, he’s a great young player. We’ve seen Boston twice this season, and he’s been excellent. So, looking forward to playing with him and getting to know him in Beijing for sure.” 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

MY FINNYYYYY YOU ARE SO LOVED 💛🖤💛

luca haas defender @rozhaas

i love troy he never has shit to say ❤️

 

Ottawa Centaurs ☑️ @OttawaCens

W in Beantown! Your Centaurs head into the break with a 3-2 win over the Boston Bears! 

 

Boston Bears ☑️ @BostonBears

Your stars of the evening: 
⭐ Ilya Rozanov
🌟🌟 Finn Matkovic 🐻
⭐⭐⭐ Wyatt Hayes

 


 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

Hearing that the Team Canada members of the Centaurs and Bears went out for dinner last night in Boston after the game for some pre-Olympics bonding. Hollander, Hayes, Barrett, Boodram, Marlow, and Matkovic in attendance.

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

I’m told Rozanov was also there. 

kitty @2017hollanov

SLKDF of course he was he and shane are attached at the hip

pri ✰࿐ @marlheau

okay and if my husband looked like that i’d be all over him too

 

gay jess @pikesbian

thank god we all get to cheer for shane hollander again i missed him so bad

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

you have been cheering for him already

gay jess @pikesbian

yeah but like now i get to do it without facing anti-ottawa discrimination from my roommates 💀

 

Ottawa Centaurs ☑️ @OttawaCens

Join us in wishing good luck to 6 of our Centaurs as they head out to Beijing for the 2022 Winter Olympics:
🇨🇦: Shane Hollander, Troy Barrett, Zane Boodram, Wyatt Hayes
🇨🇭: Luca Haas
🇸🇪: Ivar Holmberg

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Flying out to Beijing today! Hoping to record our first Olympics episode tomorrow afternoon. 

 

margo @shanebortion

i hate the olympics lowkey because now i have to cheer for my mortal enemy scott hunter

gay jess @pikesbian

shane is literally on team canada you don’t have to do that

margo @shanebortion

im sorry im american can you accept that about me

gay jess @pikesbian

:/ 

 


 

The Neutral Zone S05E53: Laryngitis, 00:00

Tyler Kudirka: Hello everyone, I’m your host Tyler Kudirka. Welcome to an unusual episode of The Neutral Zone, and not just because it’s an Olympics episode. No, I’m sorry to say that my usual podcast companion has been struck by a bad case of laryngitis. Wishing you a swift recovery, Denis. However, I’m very excited to announce that, graciously filling in for Denis for the duration of the Olympics, is the one and only Julia Prior! 

Julia Prior: Hi! Thank you so much for having me! 

Tyler Kudirka: Thank you for being here! I’ve been such a fan for ages, I am so honoured to call you a friend, and I know the listeners are excited to hear from you for the next two weeks. 

Julia Prior: That’s so kind, Tyler. I’m just glad to have a sightseeing buddy here. No, I’m kidding, this is so much more than that. You guys do good work here on The Neutral Zone. I’ve got big shoes to fill. 

Tyler Kudirka: I’m sure you’ll manage it with aplomb.

Julia Prior: Well, with your help, it won’t be hard.

Tyler Kudirka: Ugh, I’m so excited. Okay, okay, we can’t just chat and have fun, although, you know, obviously Beijing is very cool so far, but maybe we can give our tourist update at the end of the pod. 

Julia Prior: That’s probably the most productive structure.

Tyler Kudirka: What we should get into is that Team Canada have had their first practice.

Julia Prior: And Team USA’s starts in half an hour! 

Tyler Kudirka: Yes, yes, we’ll pause the pod to watch. Don’t worry, everyone, we’ll cover it all. But, my question is, how are we feeling about the lines? 

Julia Prior: I mean, I’m never opposed to trying things out in practice. Like, you don’t always know what will and won’t work without giving it a go. 

Tyler Kudirka: For sure. But are we liking this first line of Matkovic, Matheson, and Doucet? 

Julia Prior: I’m not convinced by it. I think– look. Clearly, they think Matheson is, like, their guy. He’s the captain, he’s going to set the style of play, the level of compete, all that. Do I think he’s the best guy for that role? Not really, but the ship has sailed and we’ve already beat the dead horse enough.

Tyler Kudirka: [laughs] Right, for sure. 

Julia Prior: So, okay, Matheson as the first line center, it is what it is. I like him with Doucet on his left. I think their styles of play mesh well. They played together at the World Juniors in 2011, so they have some chemistry to fall back on. Is Doucet the best right winger on this team? No, but it makes sense to spread your talent out throughout the line up. 

Tyler Kudirka: Very true. I think those two fit well together. But my problem–and if I’m reading between the lines correctly, I think maybe yours too–is that Matkovic is just not the fit with these two.

Julia Prior: Absolutely not! And that’s not for lack of skill, obviously. Look, I’ve watched every NHL game this kid has played. Matty is fast and cerebral, and Matheson is… methodical, I guess, is the nicest way I can find to put it. Responsible. 

Tyler Kudirka: [snorts] Yeah. I’m surprised they haven’t tried Matkovic with Hollander, I feel like those are guys who play a similar game. 

Julia Prior: I thought exactly the same. Genuinely. I was sittin’ there watching practice and waiting for them to finally do what seemed, just, so unbelievably obvious, and nothing. 

Tyler Kudirka: Seems like a really egregious oversight, honestly. He’d fit right in with Hollander and Barrett. 

Julia Prior: Yes! And meanwhile, I think they spent most of practice with Fleming? That seems like a clunky fit to me.

Tyler Kudirka: Yeah. They moved Brisebois up near the end of practice, and that worked better, but I just… Like, what are we missing? Put your guys who can fly together, put Matheson on a line with the other guys who are steady and responsible but not particularly swift, and then keep the third line as it is. 

Julia Prior: [snorts] Yes. Oh yeah, unless it looks different in an actual game, let’s not touch the Boodram-Friesen-McIntosh connection. Those guys are, well, number one, a first line on almost any NHL team. Not just in terms of individual skill, but the chemmy? 

Tyler Kudirka: Oh, far and away the most complete line. They’re clicking really well. I think Bood and Friesen played junior together, didn’t they? 

Julia Prior: I’m just googling that now… Yes! They did. And obviously Friesen and McIntosh played together in Pittsburgh for a few months in 2019. 

Tyler Kudirka: Yes, right, great stuff. Just a bunch of good, steady, responsible guys with a high offensive upside.

Julia Prior: They are! This is, look, this is a good team. Elite players. And this is just the first practice. Maybe the coaching staff see something we’re missing, maybe it’ll all click come game time. But there’s not a lot of time to figure that out. Canada’s in the same group as the United States. 

Tyler Kudirka: They play them in five days! 

Julia Prior: Exactly! So I’m… Look, we can’t make a judgement call till we see them in a game. But I’m a bit skeptical of the choices being made here so far. 

 


 

kitty @2017hollanov

i love the olympics i get to watch shane hollander play with finn matkovic and now i dont even have to listen to denis alderman for my hockey news

luca haas defender @rozhaas

bad news bestie they only play together on the power play 🙃

 

Ottawa Centaurs ☑️ @OttawaCens

Bright and early! Join us at The Landsdowne Cafe for our Team Canada watchalong brunch at 8 am tomorrow! 

 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

….am i going to get up at 7am to go downtown and watch team canada with a bunch of other cens fans? maybe so.

 

Team Canada ☑️ @TeamCanada

Oh Canada! Watch as members of the men’s and women’s hockey teams attend mixed doubles curling! bit.ly/29871797

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

waitttttt finn sitting between hollander and marly stop that’s literally his mama that’s his dad this is a family ♥️

pri ✰࿐ @marlheau

@cubkovic dont let roz hear you say this

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

@marlheau SLKDJFS NO!!  no no no. marly is the adoptive dad that raised him, shane is his biological mother. they are NOT together they are just coparenting

 

Ilya Rozanov ☑️ @ilyarozanov 

Who is calling my husband mama? 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

IM SORRY ITS A JOKE KING HE’S JUST THE MAMA DUCK PLEASE

 

ilya’s thong @achilles81

begging ilya rozanov for mercy on the tl is so funny. girl he can’t do anything to you

 

Ilya Rozanov ☑️ @ilyarozanov 

I do like ducklings. 

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

marked 🏳️ safe 🏳️ from ilya rozanov

 


 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist

showed up to the centaurs watch party. ilya rozanov is here. I’M IN MY FUCKING PAJAMAS???

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist

the speed at which that man consumes hashbrowns is alarming.

 

Ottawa Centaurs ☑️ @OttawaCens

Hello from the Landsdowne Cafe! Ilya Rozanov, Chuck the Beaver, and Centaurs Faithful are here to cheer on Team Canada! 🇨🇦🦫

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

okay i have to admit something really embarrassing. i found out literally yesterday that ilya rozanov used to play for the bears.

pri ✰࿐ @marlheau

EM??? WHAT THE FUCK?????

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

i didnt care about the bears till i moved to boston for college and they drafted matty 😭😭😭

pri ✰࿐ @marlheau

this is so crazy em i love you but he was the captain. he won us a cup. 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

damn… why’d they trade him?

pri ✰࿐ @marlheau

EM THEY DIDNT HE LEFT IN FREE AGENCY TO BE CLOSE TO HIS SECRET BOYFRIEND

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

okay sorry for not knowing the lore i just learned abt holly and roz when they got outed last year

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

god. god i wish my life had been this simple. we were in the trenches.

 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics 

Watch as Team Canada face off against Germany on CBC now! 

 

squid @cephalopod

tuning into hockey for the first time in 4 years wdym there are gay people now?

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Zane Boodram breaks the ice less than two minutes in! We’re up 1-0! 

 

dev @bywardbood

BOOOOOOD MY FUCKING GOAT

dev @bywardbood

i did kind of miss watching hockey live, i cant lie. dont move to europe guys not even for grad school, the time zone is untenable except when the olympics are in BEIJING

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

We’re headed to the power play! 

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler 

I like Matheson, I do. But he’s not even on Colorado’s top PP unit anymore. What’s he doing on Canada’s? 

Gianna 🏔️ @milehighhottie

well canada doesn’t have bogrov

shane’s pr manager @holly24

@milehighhottie WE HAVE SHANE HOLLANDER THO??? 

 

Julia Prior ☑️ @JuliaPriorESPN

It’s the Kid! Finn Matkovic is on the board with a power play goal! 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Matkovic and Hollander on the second unit are magic

Julia Prior ☑️ @JuliaPriorESPN

@neutralzonetyler They should listen to us 🤷

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

screaming and crying matty!!!!! my baby boy matty!!!!!!

kitty @2017hollanov

holly hugging him oh my god 😭 scoring goals with mama!!!! 

 

ilya’s thong @achilles81

OH FUCK

 

dev @bywardbood

holy shit oh my god

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

oh that looks really bad…. 

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Tough scene here in Beijing. The captain James Matheson collides awkwardly with Forst against the boards and is slow getting up. Taps for the captain as he heads down the tunnel. 

 

gay jess @pikesbian

be honest are we done

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

James Matheson will not return to the game. 

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Germany score. 🇨🇦 2-1 🇩🇪

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Germany score a second. 🇨🇦 2-2 🇩🇪

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Germany again. 🇩🇪 3-2 🇨🇦

 

tanHER dillon @kanatacommunist 

jesus. how the fuck are we trailing GERMANY

 

margo @shanebortion

what do you mean JAMES MATHESON was LOAD BEARING???? 

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Canada end the period down 3-2. They came out hot, but ground to a halt when Matheson went down. Hoping they can gather themselves and come back stronger in the 2nd. 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

There’s a lot of experience and poise in that room. Lots of potential leaders to look to. Who will step up?

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Hollander lines up with Barrett and Matkovic to take the first face off of the second period. This could get interesting.

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

HOLLANDER TIES IT FIFTEEN SECONDS IN! 🇨🇦3-3 🇩🇪

 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

you would not believe how loudly roz yelled when holly scored jesus christ that man has lungs 

 

kitty @2017hollanov

shane hollander youre the only bitch here i trust

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Barrett’s on the board! 🇨🇦4-3 🇩🇪

 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

TROY BARRETT MY BEST FRIEND TROY BARRETT!!! 

 

Julia Prior ☑️ @JuliaPriorESPN

Matkovic looks great on Hollander’s wing. This line is flying - it’s only the second period, but it’s baffling that it took an injury to get here.

 

New York Admirals ☑️ @NYAdmirals 

BREEZY! Antoine Brisebois scores his first Olympic goal for Canada to put them up 5-3!

 

gay jess @pikesbian

to be honest i didnt know who breezy was before this moment but i would die for him

 

little apple 🧃@vaughany

im not cheering for canada but i do love a breezy goal

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Germany get one back. 🇨🇦5-4 🇩🇪

 

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

fawkkkkkkk

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Just a tough defensive breakdown there. Doucet looked great with Matheson, but he’s struggling to find where he fits beside St. Pierre. I think there’s potential there, they just don’t have the chemistry yet.

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Never seen Hollander this vocal on the bench. He’s talking to everybody, pointing things out during the play, clapping guys on the back. Meanwhile Barrett and Matkovic are huddled over an ipad together every time they’re not on the ice. This line is cooking something.

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Kind of reminds me of Rozanov, actually. Maybe something he’s picked up in Ottawa.

kitty @2017hollanov

hollanov are so in love i feel ill

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Second period ends with Canada up 5-4. This is sloppy hockey from Canada, but I think there’s something bubbling beneath the surface. Obviously the first period was jarring, but they’re shaking it off and I wouldn’t be surprised if they come out even stronger in the third.

 


 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

First 2022 Olympic win in the books! Canada defeats Germany 8-4. 

 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist

okok my brunch recap: 
- roz was talking maddddd shit about m/atheson before he got hurt and u could tell roz felt bad when he got injured but it was so funny before that oh my god
- roz is honestly also ready to kidnap & adopt matty thats his baby’s baby he’s ready to be the stepdad

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist

- obvi roz was so hyped about the centaurs goals but especially holly’s
- roz cheered so much for the marly goal! it’s cute those two are still friends

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

just remembered we have to play the fucking USA next. should we die?

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

idk we’re gayer than they are and that usually makes for good hockey

shane’s pr manager @holly24

great point

 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics

Hollander on the game: “Definitely less disciplined than we wanted. Seeing your captain go down like that in the first game is jarring. But we dug deep, found our game. Really proud of these guys. And obviously, we’re hoping for the best for Jimmy.” 

 

Julia Prior ☑️ @JuliaPriorESPN

Asked Matkovic about the locker room in the first intermission, said the veteran alternate captains really stepped up. Shouted out Boodram as well. 

Julia Prior ☑️ @JuliaPriorESPN

Quote: “This is a great leadership group. There are a lot of guys who could’ve been named captain, I think. But Hollander really stepped up. He just has such a calming presence in the locker room and on the bench, you know? That’s just a guy who knows exactly how he wants to go play hockey, and he makes it easy for you to do that too.”

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

matkovic saying it’s easy to play with shane is kind of funny because famously shane is so good that lower caliber players often struggle to keep up but of course matty is just having fun

 

Cens Watch ☑️ @CensWatch

Rozanov was on TSN Radio this afternoon talking about the Canada game: “I think it is harder to play Olympic hockey than people really understand. And not even because of the bigger rink or whatever. It’s the pressure. We are used to playoff series in the NHL, so the single game elimination format is very scary.” 1/2

Cens Watch ☑️ @CensWatch

“...Even in the round robin, not a lot of room for error. Every win matters, how you win it matters, goal differential matters. Canada can pull out a gutsy win like that and they are already second in the group because the USA beat China 8-0 a few hours earlier. So, lots of pressure on these guys. Impressive win, after Matheson injury.” 2/2

 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

it’s funny bc i feel like you so rarely hear roz talk hockey seriously but he has to defend his husband and teammates 

isa ⚘ @marlyroz 

god i am still obsessed with him

 


 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

Hearing Matheson will suit up against the USA. 

 

ilya’s thong @achilles81

laryngitis will NOT stop hockey’s gossip girl

margo @shanebortion

denis alderman hunched over a humidifier tweeting in canada about a hockey game in china

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Puck drop in Beijing! 🇨🇦 vs. 🇺🇸

 

Gianna 🏔️ @milehighhattie 

okay wait how injured is jimmy bc i have never seen that man skate like this

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler 

Matheson plays two shifts, collides awkwardly with Pierce, and heads down the tunnel again. Wonder if this is it for him at the Olympics.

 

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Canada falls to the USA in overtime. Final score 4-3

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

on god i hate scott hunter. as unhomophobically as possible i hate scott hunter. i love that he’s gay i like him as a guy but i hate when he plays hockey against my fucking team and scores fucking overtime winners at the fucking olympics

ilya’s thong @achilles81

at least he is so old his bones will crumble before 2026 🙏

 

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

the ilya rozanov propaganda is getting to you people bc scott is not that old

ilya’s thong @achilles81

said the former scottshane enthusiast

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

said the former shane anti??? 

 

margo @shanebortion 

my arch nemesis making my baby boy shaney look sososososo sad and stressed and yet it’s my team that won. never felt worse about a hockey game somehow

gay jess @pikesbian

consider u could cheer for canada

margo @shanebortion 

why would i do that you just lost

gay jess @pikesbian

margo.

margo @shanebortion 

jess.

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

It’s hard to take a win from a loss like this, but I genuinely don’t know if I’ve ever seen Hollander play like this. Obviously, his speed and IQ are always off the charts, but he’s bringing a new steadfast grittiness to every shift.

 


 

The Neutral Zone S05E55: Triple Axel, 21:46

Tyler Kudirka: Obviously, things aren’t over for Canada. You can lose one in the round robin. 

Julia Prior: For sure. They’ll need to improve their goal differential though if they want to edge into the quarterfinal over Sweden or Finland, though. 

Tyler Kudirka: Yeah. I mean, not the end of the world if they don’t, just means they have to get through the playoff round, but still to be avoided if possible. 

Julia Prior: Considering they have China next, I wouldn’t be too worried.

Tyler Kudirka: No. Yeah, no, no offense to our gracious hosts, but that’s a team you could put up a ten spot on. 

Julia Prior: Which they might need to do, if we’re honest, Tyler.

Tyler Kudirka: It would certainly help. How are we feeling about that Matkovic-Hollander-Barrett line? 

Julia Prior: Regardless of the game we just watched, regardless of what my passport says, for my money, that’s the best line in this tournament. 

Tyler Kudirka: By a country mile.

Julia Prior: Well, hold your horses. They’re the best, but the Kelly-Hunter-Vaughan line has some real firepower too.

Tyler Kudirka: Sure. How many goals do they have combined? 

Julia Prior: Five. 

Tyler Kudirka: And how many of those are from the game against China? 

Julia Prior: [sighs] Three. 

Tyler Kudirka: Right. And the Hollander line have six, and three of those are against the USA. 

Julia Prior: It’s not a competition, Tyler.

Tyler Kudirka: It very literally is.

Julia Prior: Whatever, Matkovic is a Bear, I literally win either way.

Tyler Kudirka: [snorts] We love professional impartiality. 

Julia Prior: Oh, okay, should we get into how Canada only had one effective scoring line against the US today?

Tyler Kudirka: Ugh, you joke, but we should talk about it…

 


 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Canada’s Head Coach Glenn Lamb says James Matheson will miss a few games. They haven’t ruled him out for the end of the tournament just yet.

 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

Interesting note about Olympic rules: There must be a player wearing the C in each game. We’ll see who they pick, but I think it’s already clear who’s taken the leadership position in the room.

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

oooooooooooh antoine theriault you will pay for ever speaking about my goat shane hollander 

 


 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

It’s Hollander with the C for Game 3! Friesen joins Boiziau as an alternate. 

 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics

Team Canada faces off with the home team 🇨🇳 on CBC, Sports Centre, and CBC Gem in ten minutes!

 

ilya’s thong @achilles81

it’s time for real olympic hockey boys

 

dev @bywardbood

maybe i shouldn’t derive enjoyment from watching some of the best players in the world light up a bunch of khl players but i am evil 😇

 

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Canada defeat China 11-0 and we’re on to the quarter final! 

 


 

The Neutral Zone S05E56: Elevated Cupcake Experience, 11:52

Tyler Kudirka: It’s gotta feel good for Canada to play a game like that after the drama of the last two, don’t you think? 

Julia Prior: Definitely. Not a significant challenge, but a confidence booster. No offense to the home team here, but the 32nd ranked IIHF team versus the first is kind of…

Tyler Kudirka: Yeah… yeah, they say there aren’t easy wins in hockey, but this one was kind of a gimme. But I think they needed that.

Julia Prior: I think so too. Gave them a chance to settle in, to play on some more consistent lines in a game context. 

Tyler Kudirka: Play a normal game where no one gets hurt. 

Julia Prior: Yep. Pretty much as normal as an 11-0 hockey game can be.

Tyler Kudirka: [laughs] Well, yeah, that’s true. But good too to get guys going up and down the line up, right? Big Cliff Marlow goal, Fleming in on the action, Boiziau with two, all of that is helpful. 

Julia Prior: Well, it gives you confidence, right? Makes a guy think, okay, I can score on Olympic ice, I can score off these linemates, or assist these linemates, we’re clicking.

Tyler Kudirka: Yep. And I think Nguyen drew in very effectively on that fourth line. Nice to see him get some game action. 

Julia Prior: Yeah, I do wonder a little whether it was worth keeping Matheson in over Nguyen in the second game there, if maybe giving Matheson a chance to heal up would’ve been worth doing.

Tyler Kudirka: Ooh, you know, I have a text from Denis, actually, that’s probably relevant here.

Julia Prior: I love that he’s texting you his podcast thoughts. Not even laryngitis can keep him down.

Tyler Kudirka: Oh, he’s like a freaking bloodhound sometimes, sniffing out scoops. And if he finds something worth saying, he’s gonna bay. 

Julia Prior: That’s what makes him good at the job! 

Tyler Kudirka: Too true. Okay, from Denis, he says: “Don’t think the Matheson injuries are related. Two distinct issues. He thought he could skate through the first, but not the one he received in the game against the USA. Would’ve if he could. Warrior.” 

Julia Prior: Oh, wow, okay. I knew the second injury was more knee related, but I just assumed the ankle reports from the first game were wrong. 

Tyler Kudirka: Yeah. So, hard to fault anyone for dressing him in that game, in the end then. Just bad luck. But we were glad to see Nguyen play well…

 


 

IIHF ☑️ @IIHFHockey

Top finishers Canada, USA, Finland, and Russian Olympic Committee automatically advance to the quarterfinal. The four remaining spots will be earned through the playoff round.

 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

the way luca has to go through the friendship gauntlet against holmberg for sweden and then IF they get through sweden its four other centaurs for canada 💀

kitty @2017hollanov

theres no way they’re getting through sweden tho

luca haas defender @rozhaas

with ekroth injured their goaltending is kind of cooked tbh

 

gay jess @pikesbian

olympic hockey is great but im experiencing hayden pike withdrawals

ilya’s thong @achilles81

🚨 brand new sentence alert ‼️ 🔔

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Chatted briefly with Hollander after practice about wearing the C again: “I’m willing to play whatever role this team needs me to be. I wasn’t expecting it per se, there are a lot of leaders in this room, but it’s an honour to be asked, and I’m proud to step into the role for as long as I’m needed. Obviously, we hope Jimmy’ll be back with us soon.”

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Asked also about whether he was taking inspiration from his new captain in Ottawa: “Ilya is a great captain. He and I have different leadership styles, but I’ve learned a lot from watching him the last few months. So, definitely thinking about how he would approach situations, how that might differ from my instincts, and what the moment calls for.”

 


 

Ottawa Centaurs ☑️ @OttawaCens

LUCA HAAS WITH THE OT WINNER FOR SWITZERLAND 🇨🇭! 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

IM SO HAPPY 😭😭😭

 

Ottawa Centaurs ☑️ @OttawaCens

Switzerland beats Sweden 4-3 in overtime. Proud of both our boys for giving it all out there!

 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics

The matchups are set! 🇨🇦 Canada will play Switzerland 🇨🇭 in the men’s hockey quarterfinal on Monday.

 

kitty @2017hollanov

shane and his biological daughter matty playing against his husband’s biological daughter luca in an olympic quarter final… my feelings will be hurt! 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic

shanedaughter vs rozdaughter

 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

shane did not carry luca in his womb for nine months for you to call luca JUST a rozdaughter… that is the hollanov daughter… 

 

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

some of you have the strangest analytical lenses imaginable. i guess hockey really is for everyone

ilya’s thong @achilles81

as though you didnt write scottshane mpreg in 2012

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

I TOLD YOU THAT IN CONFIDENCE

 


 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics

Third period of Canada vs. Switzerland starting now! Canada leads 4-2

 

gay jess @pikesbian

ok it took me a while to get the troy barrett hype because im ontologically opposed to the toronto guardians and i only watch cens games for shane but watching barrett play for canada i get it

 

gay jess @pikesbian

what i like about troy barrett is that he kind of looks like you could put him in world war one and he’d fit right in. he’s so sad and pathetic and wet

gay jess @pikesbian

those uniforms with the cunty little waists and stupid helmets? get him IN THERE i need to see him contract trench foot NEOW

margo @shanebortion

what the fuck are you talking about

ilya’s thong @achilles81

bros onto nothing 🔥🔥

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist

he’d share a gay little cigarette with an ontario farm boy while caked in mud and then theyd both die ❤️

gay jess @pikesbian

@hollanovist you get me 💗

 

Ottawa Centaurs ☑️ @OttawaCens

🇨🇭 Haas gets one back! 

 

margo @shanebortion 

obsessed with how annoyed holly looks

kitty @2017hollanov

betrayed by his own flesh and blood

luca haas defender @rozhaas

luca scoring on shane’s team the way his father taught him to

 

New York Admirals ☑️ @NYAdmirals 

Breezy gets his second of the tournament! 

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

FREEZIN FRIESEN! 6-3 Canada! 🥶

 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics

Canada beats Switzerland 6-3 and moves on to the semi-final on Wednesday!

 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

oh my god all of the cens hugging luca in the handshake line im gonna cry THATS FAMILYYYY

 

Ottawa Centaurs ☑️ @OttawaCens

Five Centaurs faced off in Beijing today, and boy did they deliver! 
🇨🇦 Barrett 1G
🇨🇦 Boodram 1G 1A
🇨🇭 Haas 1G 1A
🇨🇦 Hayes .901 SVP
🇨🇦 Hollander 2A

 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

Still one more quarterfinal game today which will determine Canada’s next opponent. Canada will play ROC if they beat Norway, or Finland if it’s Norway who progresses. 

 

vic @censeless

jorgy you and norway have the chance to do the funniest thing possible

shane’s pr manager @holly24

you dont think canada can defeat a roz-less roc?

vic @censeless

no i do i just think it would be funny if they lost to norway

 

 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics

Semi Final match ups are set! It’s Canada vs. ROC and USA vs. Finland

 


 

The Neutral Zone S05E57: Centaurs Club, 23:45

Tyler Kudirka: Yeah, Haas is really coming into his own. I think we’ve got to seriously consider that Switzerland might be contending for a medal next Olympics if he and Greninger can keep progressing at this rate. 

Julia Prior: Well, I think that also relies on Sweden continuing to struggle, but anything can happen at the Olympics. 

Tyler Kudirka: That’s a good point. Maybe Vancouver will unearth another Pettersson. 

Julia Prior: Couldn’t hurt. Lars has been excellent for them and for Sweden. 

Tyler Kudirka: Unfortunately, one guy does not a team make. But we should get into the upcoming semi-finals; Canada facing the Russian Olympic Committee team. 

Julia Prior: Clunky name, those Russians, but not a clunky team. 

Tyler Kudirka: No, they’ve been sharp this Olympics. You might have better insight here than I do though.

Julia Prior: Well, they’re captained by Dmitri Kovalev, former Bear, current Minnesota Nomad. Excellent winger, middling center when you ask him to be. He’s played his best hockey on Ilya Rozanov’s wing–

Tyler Kudirka: There are a lot of guys who can say that.

Julia Prior: –but of course, no Rozanov this Olympics.

Tyler Kudirka: Yeah, that’s… Obviously, that’s a bad look for the ROC, but expected, and certainly a decision that makes them worse.

Julia Prior: No question. It’s, I mean, Hollander spoke about it before the Olympics, he and Rozanov knew that in coming out, or being outed, as was the case, Rozanov would lose his chance at playing for Russia again. 

Tyler Kudirka: For listeners not in the know, the Russian government has criminalized the, quote, promotion of homosexuality, and, following his wedding to Shane Hollander, Rozanov was disavowed by the Russian Olympic Committee. Which we–obviously–heartily condemn, and stand in solidarity with him and his husband.

Julia Prior: Yeah, really tough to see. We miss seeing Rozanov on Olympic ice. 

Tyler Kudirka: We do. And, of course, without him, the ROC are weaker. 

Julia Prior: They really are. The Russian hockey federation has been investing significantly in Russian hockey since Sochi, they don’t want a repeat of that embarrassment. They won gold in 2018, but that wasn’t considered a best-on-best tournament without the NHL in attendance. This is the year for redemption, and it was meant to be centered on the three-headed monster of Rozanov, Kovalev, and Ivan Bogrov. But instead, they have this gaping hole at first line center. 

Tyler Kudirka: So rather than a powerhouse, we have a team that’s… approachable? 

Julia Prior: I think so. Obviously, Canada are down Matheson, who’s as good a two-way forward as they come, but without the offensive terror that is Rozanov on the other side, that gap isn’t so concerning. 

Tyler Kudirka: Right. It’ll still be a tough match, these are both excellent teams with excellent players. 

Julia Prior: That they are. It could go either way. But without Rozanov, I think Canada has the edge. 

Tyler Kudirka: Well, and I imagine it’s a bit personal for Hollander. 

Julia Prior: Yeah. …Yeah, I wonder how much that’ll factor into his own mental preparation. It’s always been my impression that Shane Hollander works to keep his personal life separate from hockey, although that’s been harder the last year or so with the level of scrutiny he’s been under, but you gotta assume he’s considered this. We’ll see if and how that manifests at all. 

 


 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Canada and ROC are tightly matched! Tied at 3 apiece with seven minutes left, we’re getting into next goal wins territory.

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

guys im scared

 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics

Zane Boodram puts Canada up 4-3 over the ROC late in the third period! Tune in now on CBC, Sports Centre, and CBC Gem.

 

gay jess @pikesbian

oh my god i thought i was stressed when it was tied but now we have to keep a lead for FIVE WHOLE MINUTES??????? 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

LIKE IM GOING TO THROW UP

 

kitty @2017hollanov

HOLYYYY FUCK I THOUGHT THAT WAS IN OH MY GOD 🫠

 

margo @shanebortion 

WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE TOOK A FUCKING TOO MANY MEN PENALTY WITH A MINUTE LEFT JESUS CHRIST

gay jess @pikesbian

“we” said the american

margo @shanebortion 

SHUT UP JESS I LOVE SHANE HOLLANDER OKAY

 

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

BIG SAVE HAYES

 

dev @bywardbood 

oh my god wyatt hayes i would die for you im so serious my goat of all time that save was insane

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic 

ten seconds pls pls pls just dont let them tie it

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

That’s a WIN! Canada beat the ROC 4-3 in the Olympic Semi-Final.

 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics

Canada will go for gold in Men’s Ice Hockey on Sunday! 

 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman

Long conversation between Dmitri Kovalev and Shane Hollander in the handshake line. These two have played a number of elimination games against each other, although Kovalev’s part has typically been overshadowed by Rozanov. Great sportsmanship and respect between these competitors.

↳ Derek @DerekMG70

Tried to lip read and it seems like the conversation was at least partly in Russian… 

 

ilya’s thong @achilles81

why tf did shane just hug roz’s ex teammate. what is going on. 

 

Katherine Savinova ☑️ @NBCSavinova

Kovalev on his conversation with Hollander in the handshake line: “[Rozanov] is an old friend. We played many years together. We have missed him at these Games. I told Hollander to give him my best.”

 

Addam @fenwayfiend

Seems risky for a Russian player to be so friendly with Hollander given *waves hand* everything, but Kovalev is 34 so it’s probably his last Olympics anyway, and his wife is American - maybe not as much at stake?

 

Ilya Rozanov   ☑️ @ilyarozanov

Game was so stressful maybe I should take up smoking again 🚬

Shane Hollander ☑️ @ShaneHollander24

Do not.

Ilya Rozanov   ☑️ @ilyarozanov

😇

 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

…roz ragebaiting on twitter so his husband pays attention to him i see you

 


 

The Neutral Zone S05E58: Snakebitten, 27:25

Julia Prior: I hate to be the bad guy, Tyler, but I think we need to have a conversation about Shane Hollander. 

Tyler Kudirka: He’s strangely snakebitten isn’t he? 

Julia Prior: He is, and yet he’s not been bad by any stretch of the imagination. He’s playing out of his mind. He has multiple points in every game, his line is flying, the PP is clicking, but through all of this… where’s the scoring?

Tyler Kudirka: Yeah. He’s got just two goals in the tournament, and both of them against lower seeded teams. He’s not scoring on NHL goaltenders. 

Julia Prior: I almost wonder if he’s got some yips? But he’s playing so excellently otherwise. 

Tyler Kudirka: Yeah. His shots on goal are a bit down from what he usually averages, so that’s part of it, but I wonder if that’s partly because they’re just not going in. He’s passing rather than shooting. 

Julia Prior: And with his linemates, passing isn’t necessarily the wrong call. He had the one bad giveaway against Switzerland that led to the Haas goal, but otherwise just smart, sound plays. He has thirteen points in the tournament… Do Canada need Shane Hollander to score in order to beat the USA? Or is his presence in the assists column of the point sheet enough?

Tyler Kudirka: I don’t know, Julia. I think… Whether he scores or not, Canada losing wouldn’t be his fault. The Americans are very good, and so are the Canadians. No one should be relying on one guy. But if he can find the back of the net, that could very easily be the reason Canada wins. 

Julia Prior: I like that. Sometimes you just need a goal from your big guys. 

Tyler Kudirka: In 2014, one goal would’ve made the difference. I wouldn’t be surprised if this year’s gold medal game is similarly close.

 


 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Hollander, on what it means to represent Canada: “There are a lot of people here representing Canada. I don’t want to pretend it’s just us, this team is part of a much bigger one. We understand, though, that hockey has a special place in Canada. So it’s an honour, and there’s a lot of pressure that comes with it, but that’s because people care…” 1/2

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Hollander: “For me… This year, I’ve been thinking about how this is the country that has given my husband a home, in a way his birthplace can’t be right now. It’s obviously less simple than that, but it’s not something I take for granted. So that’s what I’m playing for.” 2/2

 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

IM SO FUCKING SICK OH HOLLY OH ROZ MY BOYSSSS

luca haas defender @rozhaas

they love each other so bad oh my GOD

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

it’s crazy how much more open shane has been this year. like now that he doesn’t have to keep such a big secret he’s so much more willing to be honest about the other stuff

shane’s pr manager @holly24

obviously wish he could’ve come out on his own terms rather than being forced into it but idk it just seems like he’s happy

 

Ottawa Centaurs ☑️ @OttawaCens

Join us at the Canadian Tire Centre for the gold medal game watchalong on Sunday! Doors open at 7 pm. Get your tickets now: https://www.nhl.com/centaurs/tickets/

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

should i go

vic @censeless

@hollanovist obvi omg oomfie meetup 🔜

 


 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman

Matheson will not play against the USA in the gold medal game today. Hollander keeps the C. 

 

kitty @2017hollanov

oh my god im so scared. guys we cannttttttt fucking lose to fucking scott hunter again shane has to assert dominance as The hockey gay

 

vic @censeless

the most annoying people you know are at the canadian tire center ✨🍁 @hollanovist @kanatacommunist 

tanHER dillon @kanatacommunist 

daydrinking starts NOW 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

💥💥💥

 

little apple 🧃@vaughany 

cmon i neeeeed another scotty gold it’s probably his last olympics lock in

 

Team Canada ☑️ @TeamCanada

Men’s ice hockey gold is underway in Beijing! 

 

Gianna 🏔️ @milehighhottie

mannn cutting to jimmy in the stands i feel so bad for him :( 

 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

roz is wearing a hollander canada jersey oh my GOD that’s literally his husband he’s in his wag era

 

gay jess @pikesbian

god. i have to go back to watching the fucking voyageurs after this.

gay jess @pikesbian

its actually agonizing to be reminded how well jj plays with shane. and now we only get that like at olympics and all star games. bc the voyageurs are stupid and evil

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

Captain Shane Hollander gets us on the board! Canada leads the USA 1-0 with 5:24 left in the first!

 

Tyler Kudirka ☑️ @neutralzonetyler

Trust Shane Hollander to find his goal scoring touch again in the gold medal game. That’s the captain for you.

 

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

its crazy that shane hollander is the best hockey player of all time, has a fat ass, and is a genuinely good guy… all while being beautiful and gay… how does he do it

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

ILYA ROZANOV LIKED THIS TWEET?? 

Ilya Rozanov 🍁 ☑️ @ilyarozanov 

he also has a very handsome talented husband did you know

 

isa ⚘ @marlyroz 

roz with the maple leaf in his display name unfortunately he is not escaping cutie pie loverboy allegations

 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics 

The second period of the men’s ice hockey gold medal game starts now! 

 

New York Admirals ☑️ @NYAdmirals 

That’s our captain! Scott Hunter ties the game for the USA 🇺🇸

 

gay jess @pikesbian

on the one hand im mad that the us tied it but on the other i like that all the goals have been scored by gay people

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

🇺🇸 Pierce at 10:44 of the second period. 2-1 USA.

 

gay jess @pikesbian

okay well now i dont like any of it

 

dev @bywardbood 

fuckkkk i know it’s fun to have a tight gold medal game but have canada considered im scared and stressed

 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

Canada finish the second period down a goal. They’ve had some good looks, but are coming up against solid goaltending and better defence. Going to need a hero in the third.

 

vic @censeless

update i’m three vodka sodas in and they’re playing the shrek version of i need a hero at canadian tire centre. ilya rozanov is lip syncing from the owner’s box. if canada dont tie this game i will drink another vodka soda. if they do tie this game i will drink two more vodka sodas.

 

CBC Olympics ☑️ @cbcolympics

Third period starting now! Watch on CBC, Sports Centre, or CBC Gem

 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

OH MY GOD

 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

Liam Jones high sticks Troy Barrett and Canada are going to the powerplay. 

 

gay jess @pikesbian

fawkkk okay canada you have to win for troy barrett’s missing tooth

 

Ottawa Centaurs ☑️ @OttawaCens

Ilya Rozanov informs me that he knows a good dentist in Ottawa and will pass the info along asap - censmin

kitty @2017hollanov

ik harris was scared sldfskdj

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

MATKOVIC ON THE POWERPLAY FROM BOODRAM AND HOLLANDER! IT’S A TIE GAME!

 

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic 

MY MATTY MY MATTY MY BOYYYYYYY

em 🧸 matty roty @cubkovic 

GOLD MEDAL GOALS WITH MAMA 😭😭😭

 

vic @censeless

time for vodka soda number 5 🤠

dev @bywardbood 

@kanatacommunist do u have eyes on this situation?

tanHER dillon @kanatacommunist 

LISTENNN vic is a wiley escape artist but we are acquiring water now 🫡

 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

holly and bood avenging troy’s tooth 😌

 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

Canada’s double shifting Hollander, sending him out with his own line and with Brisebois & Doucet. Canada are putting on the pressure and looking dangerous, but let’s hope they don’t tire him out before OT if that’s where we’re headed.

 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

oh my god they interviewed roz during the commercial break and asked abt shane and he said “of course he is playing a lot, he is the best guy there. and his stamina on ice is very good.” AND THEN HE WINKED. 

margo @shanebortion 

that man is a menace without shane supervision

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

The gold medal game is going to OT! 

 

margo @shanebortion 

shane hollander the gold medal game is about to go to overtime and you’re LOOKSMAXXING? MOGGING?? NOW OF ALL TIMES????

 

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

shane hollander give me one chance and on god i WILL get you pregnant

margo @shanebortion 

not on my watch #shanebortion

margo @shanebortion 

WHY DID ILYA ROZANOV LIKE THIS???

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

that last shot of shane when the buzzer went holyyyy roz can you fight?

ilya’s thong @achilles81

he for sure can

Ilya Rozanov 🍁 ☑️ @ilyarozanov

yes espn.com/article/Top-Ten-Ilya-Rozanov-Fights-20210422

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

🫣

 

vic @censeless

one like and i get a sixth vodka soda

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

did you like your own fucking post???

vic @censeless

@hollanovist i am lawless 

vic @censeless

UPDATE I HAVE RECIEVED THE DIVINE MANDATE OF AN ILYA ROZANOV LIKE ITS VODKA SODA TIME

 

gay jess @pikesbian

@hollanovist vic update?

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

they have been pacified with a hot dog

 

Denis Alderman ☑️ @DenisAlderman 

Olympic overtime starts now on CBC. We’ve seen some phenomenal hockey here today, but only one team can win.

 

gay jess @pikesbian

ngl i get why vic wanted to be six vodka sodas in for this im so scared

 

dev @bywardbood 

OH MY GOD

 

luca haas defender @rozhaas

HOLLY!!!

 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

SLKJSKL MY BOY MY BABY MY HOLLY OH MY GOD

 

dan 🏒 @twinkshane

HOLY FUCKIGN SHIT SHANE FUCKING HOLLANDER

 

Hockey Canada ☑️ @HockeyCanada

It’s gold for Canada! The captain brings it home! 🥇🇨🇦

shane’s pr manager @holly24

okay and on this side of it does anyone else find it kind of weird that they’re happy to call holly the captain now that he’s won the damn thing but back in august they weren’t sure he was even gonna make the team

 

tanHER dillon @kanatacommunist 

roz is crying and doing a shoey on the jumbotron. i wish i was joking.

vic @censeless

he’s not special im just not on the jumbotron

tanHER dillon @kanatacommunist 

VIC!!!!! 

 

joey 🌈 @21hunts

oh god sad scott…… im so sorry your flop ass teammates couldnt win this for you

 

yejin @anticottagecore

watching shane hollander win canada olympic gold and thinking wow i sold his husband lube to fuck him

 

margo @shanebortion 

well at least scott hunter lost

 

kitty @2017hollanov

three time stanley cup winner olympic gold medalist world juniors champion hart winner conn smythe winner boy kisser my goat forever we’re so lucky he’s canadian and plays hockey

 


 

vic @censeless

i think i am dead

ilya’s thong @achilles81

was it the six vodka sodas or the shoe residue do u think

vic @censeless

@achilles81 second hot dog

 

The Globe and Mail ☑️ @globeandmail 

Shane Hollander, Olympic Gold, and the Changing Face of Canada’s National Sport. bit.ly/248129

… Hockey is Canada’s national sport. It is a cornerstone of our identity at home and on the international stage. Shane Hollander is gay, he is Japanese-Canadian, and he is a hockey player. And despite those who think he cannot be all of those things at once, he just captained Canada to Olympic gold for the first time in 12 years. This is the face of Canadian Hockey. …

 


 

The Neutral Zone S05E59: Golden, 31:56

Tyler Kudirka: Okay, up next, I am so, so delighted to announce that we have an interview on the pod today. You may have heard that some flights got delayed and moved around, and the men’s hockey team very generously offered the Canadian hockey media team seats on their private flight, but we were all holed up together in an airport for a couple of hours first. So, this is a prerecorded clip from our airport adventure, and we are so grateful to the one and only Shane Hollander for giving us his time. 

Tyler Kudirka: Well, first of all, Shane, I want to say thank you so much for joining us here on The Neutral Zone and, obviously, congrats on the gold medal.

Shane Hollander: Thank you. I, uh, haven’t really done the podcast thing before, but I know my mom listens to The Neutral Zone, and Ilya appreciated working with you in Boston, Julia, so I’m told I’m in safe hands.

Julia Prior: That’s very kind.

Tyler Kudirka: Seriously, wow, that’s high praise.

Shane Hollander: I think my mom consumes every piece of hockey news she can get her hands on, honestly. She likes to be in the know. But, sorry, you guys have questions.

Tyler Kudirka: No, oh my god, we’re happy to hear whatever you want to say. But we do also have questions, if you’d prefer. … Okay! Um, obviously a lot has changed for you in the past year. Did you anticipate being at these Olympics?

Shane Hollander: I think… That’s a slightly complicated question, because other aspects of my life didn’t go exactly according to plan last year. 

Julia Prior: The Fanmail video… 

Shane Hollander: Yeah. Um, yeah, but Ilya and I, we were planning to get married and– and come out this summer anyway. The Olympics didn’t factor into that plan significantly. We knew… hockey might change for us. The opportunities within it. So I wasn’t sure if the Olympics would be in the cards for me. We knew they wouldn’t be for Ilya, though, and I wasn’t– I am glad to be here. I want to be clear, I’m so grateful for this opportunity, it’s such an honour, I’m so proud of what we achieved as a team. I wanted to be here, but I wasn’t sure I would be, and I made my peace with that. 

Tyler Kudirka: Where were you when you got the call? How did you react? 

Shane Hollander: It was Boxing Day, so Ilya and I were at our cottage, where we’d had Christmas with my parents. They were all very excited. My mom cried. 

Julia Prior: Aw, that’s sweet.

Shane Hollander: Yeah. Yeah, she cares a lot. And she worries… But, yeah, she was happy. We all were. I think Ilya ordered my jersey that night. 

Tyler Kudirka: That’s awesome. Have you seen the videos of him at the Cens watch party?

Shane Hollander: Ha, some of them, yeah. 

Tyler Kudirka: The shoey?

Shane Hollander: [snorts] Yes. Yeah, he’s a bit over the top sometimes. I’m glad he had fun. …I’m glad we could win it for him. Or, for everyone. For Canada. But for me, it was for him. 

Julia Prior: There’s been some speculation online that you might play for Canada together at the next Olympics. 

Shane Hollander: That would be– I mean, immigration is complicated. and hockey changes, and there’s the relationship between the league and the IIHF… and the politics of that, like, the ROC and Hockey Canada, that’s all complicated. It’s not– that would be a dream come true, to play at the Olympics with Ilya, but that’s not something I have any expectation of. 

Julia Prior: It sounds to me – and maybe I’m overstepping, so feel free to not answer – but it sounds to me like there’s a lot you’re approaching openly but without expectation these days. Is that fair?

Shane Hollander: …Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I think… Ilya and I have always understood that our relationship is exceptional. We have a lot of hopes. But we’ve been playing hockey for, like, twenty-five years. Eleven years professionally–or, actually, Ilya’s been pro longer than I, he likes to remind me that he was in the KHL for two years first. So thirteen years professionally, for him. But, the point is, we know what hockey is like, and we know that we’re a curveball, so we have hopes, but yeah, maybe not expectation so much. I think… I just keep hoping hockey will surprise us. And it has, so far, for the most part. Not every time, but better than I used to think was possible.

Tyler Kudirka: There was an article in The Globe and Mail earlier today, I’m not sure you’ve had a chance to look at it just yet–?

Shane Hollander: I’ve skimmed it. I try not to read too much hockey news anymore, but my mom thought it was worth the read. 

Tyler Kudirka: Sure. In it, they talked about what it means for Canada to be led in our national sport by a gay man of colour. That there’s something very special about the face of Canadian hockey not being just another straight white man. You weren’t quoted in the article, and I wonder if there was anything you wanted to add to this conversation? 

Shane Hollander: Yeah. Yeah, um, look, hockey is… what it is, which is a sport I love, and a sport that… says it’s trying to be inclusive, but doesn’t always succeed. Like Canada, I guess. Um. I know I’m seen as a… symbol of diversity in the sport. J.J. and I used to joke that it wasn’t an NHL ad without one of us in it. But maybe that’s more important to me, than being the guy. That maybe I’m a face of that, but maybe not the only one. Hockey’s a team sport, you know? I’m not the only gay guy who won a gold medal for hockey this year, I’m not the only Asian guy, I’m not even the only gay captain. The Canadian women’s team has been captained by a lesbian since 2015. 

Shane Hollander: So, I’m very grateful for the players I get to do this with and the players who did it before me. Fred Sasakamoose, Larry Kwong, Willie O’Ree, Paul Kariya, Scott Hunter… Hockey should be for everyone. So… I understand what the article is getting at. It’s an important conversation. But mostly I’m very grateful that I’m not the only hockey player who doesn’t fit the mold. I hope there are many more to come.

Julia Prior: I love that, Shane. It’s such an important conversation. We’re very lucky to have you be a part of it.

Tyler Kudirka: I really had no idea the depths we would get into while talking in the corner of a private airport lounge, but we are so, so glad to hear from you. 

Shane Hollander: Yeah. I don’t– There are a lot of people who are better at talking about it than I am. I don’t want to be the only voice in the conversation. I’m really just a hockey player. So, thanks for giving me a heads up about the question and letting me make notes in advance, I guess.

Tyler Kudirka: I think the interview was better for it. Now, we’ll stop taking up your time in just a second here, it’s looking like the flight might finally be boarding, so we’ll finish with one final question: Shane Hollander, two time Olympian, World Juniors Champion, 2011 World Championship silver medalist– What is your favourite memory wearing the maple leaf and representing Canada? 

Shane Hollander: Wow. You know–Okay, this Olympics comes close, I should say that, this Olympics has been so inspiring, to play with this great group of guys, to persevere through adversity like that. But, um, I met my husband at the World Juniors in 2008. Not that we– We weren’t even friends after that. But he was such a great hockey player to watch, even as the most annoying seventeen year old you’ve ever met. He was yelling at goalies, he was smoking in a non-smoking area, he played some really beautiful hockey, he beat us… I really should’ve hated him. And then the next year I beat him for the first time, so maybe actually it’s 2009 that’s my favourite. 

Julia Prior: Your careers have really been entwined from the beginning, hey? 

Shane Hollander: Yeah. Yeah. I, um– I’ve been very lucky to have won as much as I have. But I’ve only won one championship with him on the ice. And we’d like to make it a few more. If people are only ever going to talk about us together, we might as well give ‘em something exciting to talk about. 

Tyler Kudirka: Well, we wish you both the best of luck, congratulations once again on the medal, and thank you for joining us here today. 

 


 

shane’s pr manager @holly24

shane hollander you are actually the most important man in the world oh my god shane hollander do you know i love you

 

kitty @2017hollanov

shane sounding so fucking fond while he’s talking about ilya doing a SHOEY im going to cry HE LOVES HIM SO MUCH

 

gay jess @pikesbian

THEY MET WHEN THEY WERE SEVENTEEN SHANES FAVORITE MEMORY OF INTERNATIONAL HOCKEY IS BEATING HIS HUSBAND FOR THE FIRST TIME I WILL CRY!!!!!!!!!!!!

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

the way you can tell that 2008 meant more because that’s when they met even though canada lost oh my GOD

gay jess @pikesbian

they’re basically high school sweethearts im going to be sick

 


 

Julia Prior ☑️ @JuliaPriorESPN

Very excited to announce that, starting this Friday, Tyler Kudirka (@neutralzonetyler) and I will be joining forces on our very own weekly podcast! Follow Fishbowl Fridays on the podcatcher of your choice! 

 


 

June

 

liv ²⁴⁸¹ @hollanovist 

at the centaurs cup parade trying to prevent vic from getting arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct while ilya rozanov does his second shoey of the year. yeah i guess.

Notes:

in a way this was all an elaborate ploy to return to a sideplot i abandoned in closing wherein tyler started a side podcast with his lesbian sister. but now its julia instead of a sister. i think tyler still has a lesbian sister she’s just not relevant to the story bc she has the good fortune of not caring about hockey. anyway yay lesbians!

i hope there will be more in this series but my plans are vague. there’s a prose based companion to omens that lives in my head that i would love to externalise at some point. possibly also versions of closing for unrivaled when it's out, and maybe the 2016-17 season before that. That's a well tread era on this webbed site but it does compel me. or maybe 18-19. we shall see how the muse moves me!

thanks muchly for reading and kudosing and commenting and all those other lovely things <3

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